New Actions Plan Without Resident Approvals Comminsing By The 2009 JMB

Hi ! Everyone ,

I'm hearing that the current 15 months JMB 2009 has been planning a lot of things that they are the one implemented at first but now going to change it and again spending our shinking fund.

For me is this actions and planed got residence approvals , they should now concentrated on calling for AGM like been instructed by COB and been given 2 weeks From 14.05.2010 to show COB what are preparations that they have done for the meeting, not spending our money for unnecessary things that's will eventually cause our current accounts empty.Are they clearing the house ones they know they are going to be out .

They should actually look upon small thing that is urgent and a priority to residents needs , Example : Leaking of houses That's now the owners are renting outside because management could not settled it , damage to our common areas utility , Doors that until now closed at block B cannot be excess by resident here , toilet that has no hose to shit in the sauna rooms toilet and must i tell them all what to do.

They are until now having problem of accounts that cannot telly from the day they took over from kasporat  , and keep blaming them for they should clear all the differences before then complaining now that this is kasporat faults . No formal with chop and sign letter clamming from kasporat given, only with letter sign no chop from kasporat as proofs  dated December 2009. 07 Feb 2009 New JMB take Over and registered Until the letter date December 2009 10 months why is it so long for them to take actions .


I urged resident to protest on projects that will cause more money spend that initially done by them and let the new JMB 2010 Handle it .


Resident look at this scenario :
Just because the old JMB not happy with residence they clear out Shinking fund , then new JMB take over on the same months Lifts from block Cor Block A or Block B spoil cannot be operated , the cost of repairing the 3 lifts is big shinking fun not enough , where does the new JMB going to find Money to repairs this 3 lifts and they can try to find fund but its take time, but  from that time residents have to used staircases. can we all imagine that people staying at 23 floor going up and down for many day using staircases . Play our part in preparing for the worst allway think long terms not short terms " Set Our Priority Right ".

We all have to play our parts , we can say i don't bother lah ! but when the time come are we prepared.

To the current JMB i advised please thinks of others , proceed with the AGM , let the new JMB Handle for all you planned and take it to resident meeting for approvals because you guz are just representing us as residence not the owner of this building .

that's all now this is serious and should be taken not likely.

from people that care .

Breaking The Side Glass Door Entrance At Nasi Ayam Stall Block B

Hi Everyone ,

What im about to share is somethings really shocking , this picture is capture by our CC tv on the night of the insident of someone breaking the glass door just because he doesn't have a excess card to go out . This guy is with 2 foreign girl and trying to bring out these girls using the door.This incident accured at 3:15am 2010 New Year Night.

Picture of suspect coming out the block B lift and going to the door.

Picture of suspect using force by kicking the door breaking the glass to exit .

From my view of the survailance CC TV , this guy is some sort like "BAPAK AYAM" That Want to take thiers "AYAM" living here not only block B but also block C and A.

We residence needs to do something about this , untill today the door can not be excess making our life dificult.

Im suggesting we have Resident Patrol from time to time with the help of  Polices department . Even though sometime i wonder want is the purpose to have guards .

thanks

From people that care

Precausion Mesure That Is In Vain

Hi Everyone !.

Today I'm going to share something that i have put in complaint to management long time ago but no respond and actions.

when you look at this picture everybody know what this is . Yes installations progress of installing the security alarm at the all fire exit doors.

Now this is the view behind the doors , some staircase leading to fire exit is with iron gate install but some are not .

I'm going to take all of us to this worst scene scenario :

Locations : Block A side fire escape door near the mamak mini market .
Intention : A thief going to come into Serena Bay Apartment .
Target : Break into houses steel money , jewelry anything small can hand carry 
The Plan Is : Have 4 to 5 team members , 1st person acting as normal resident waiting in front of card reader door waiting for some residence to tap the card and open the door that he will also come into Serena bay in front of the guard Accessing the lift to 1st floor. After 5 minutes the 1st person came out the lifts and used the side staircase opening the side fire exit from inside to let another 4 for member to come into our compound by accessing the side staircase coming up they can excess into all block of Serena bay . The rest i leave it to all of us imaginations .
Escape Roots : All the fire escape doors that some leads to very dark parking areas where their motorbike's is park.

The Fact is :

1. All Fire Escape can not  be lock and be grill or gated according to BOMBA law.
2. We install the systems to the wrong doors the outside doors not the inside one way doors.
3. Guard never ask and records if see people have no card waiting in front of the door waiting for other people to enter into serena bay apartment.
4. We actually let our side doors open like for prostitute to come in and go out like in hotel after servicing.

Something for all of us to think and act.

from people that care

Sample letter On USUL For AGM 2010-2011 Serina Bay Apartment

SAMPLE LETTER AND IDEAS TO BRINGS UP AS USUL IN THE MEETING .

18 May 2010

Management Offices of Serina Bay Apartment

Robert Bench of Serina Bay Apartment

Jalan Hilir Sg Pinang, Georgetown

Penang.

CC: Joint Management Body of Serina Bay Apartment

Dear Sir or Madam:

RE : MY RESOLUTIONS ON POWER AND LIMIT OF NEW JMB 2010 – 2011

As we all know that we will be having our annual general meeting this months, I would like my resolutions were brought up as “USUL” in the meeting agenda.

2. My resolutions are:

-           All decision involving residence daily movement activity, facility and rules / regulations must have residence approvals in meetings

-           One Board of tender consist of 3 teams with 5 persons resident in 1 team must be forms to analyzed and open quotations or tender box. Result will be endorsed as the best value for Money Company to JMB President and posted out to public as winner in notices board. (No JMB Member and management In These Teams) These 3 teams will be shuffle to different tender.

-           All Purchasing RM10K above must go through tenders board teams and residents meeting for authorizations. Result must be posted and minutes in meetings.

-           All purchasing more than RM5K – RM9K must have at lease 1, 2 or more Quotations (Can Be Approved by 3 Members of JMC) Result Must is posted in Notices Board.

-           All Purchasing Below RM5K Direct Nego but different vendor (one time buy no partials payment) Purchases must be posted in notices board.

-           Renovations deposit RM1K must be collected from contractors not house owners. Because all damages cause are by contractors not house owner. RM100.00 must still be imposed as cleaning fees and maintenance safety box deposits. So that contractors will have to follow our house rules if they what theirs money back.

Sincerely,

( Your Name Here )

Resident of Serina Bay Apartment Penang

Latest News About 2010 - 2011 AGM For Serina bay apartment Joint Management Body

Hi ! Everyone ,

I have just understand that the commissioner of building ( COB ) offices Komtar Penang has issues out a letter to our president of JMB 2009 telling him that he will have to conduct a AJM in 2 weeks time before end of MAY09 this month .The Reason they give to COB they having problems to Audit Accounts Can't be excepted to delay AJM.

So I'm advising all the residence to make sure attend this AJM when the date been confirm by letter in our post box.

What are the things will acknowledge our right voters :

1. No outstanding maintenance fees
2. Have already given authorisation proxy letter if your house is under 2 name owner To attend AJM.
3. Rented residences if interested to come in this meeting please get proxy letter from management ask owner to sign giving you right to sit down and vote in this meeting.

After Getting the date or letter on the date of AJM this what we should do :

1. To daft and write a letter as "USUL" give to management offices and always make a copy
2. Ask the management to chop sign on your copy letter and keep it with you to bring up on the meeting day

What is the matter to bring up as "USUL" :

1. A resolutions on the limits of power of  new JMB , what are the things that they can and can't do before asking us the resident of serina bay .
2. Problem that you needs new JMB to Tackle and solved.
3. Ideas And comment with solutions ask task for new JMB .

Please spend your time and effort as for we all living here together

Thanks

People That Care

Trespassing , Vandalism And Climbing Fences Happening At Serina Bay Apartment

http://wwwserinabayresidencecomplaint.blogspot.com

Hi Everyone !.

Look  at this incident , i think all of us have come across this scenario , but why doest i now day this scenario happening a lot now. Its seem that no body care about this incident happening around us likewise it is a normal day incident. Why we as residence here rather see it and leave it. Let us think and guest where are they going by coming into our residential like this :

Guessing :

1. Our swimming pool
2. Our Gym room
3. Our Sauna room
4. Our Basketball court
5. Our Tennis court
6. Your own house stilling shoes and slippers
7. Damaging our facility ( Vandalism )
8. Using Our facility without permissions and records

What is the impact to us as residence ?.

1. Damages that needs maintenance and coming from our maintenance fees.

2. Our facility is out of order making it inconvenience to us as residence.
3. We always in fear of our belonging will be stolen in our living ares.
4. We will be feeling  insecure

What is always the reason we hear if we caught them using our facility ?.

1. I have relative staying here, That's why we play here.( but no relative presences )
2. My friends live here , that's why we play here. ( but no presences of the friends mentioned )
3. I followed my friends here they told me this places is good hanging ( Lepak ) places.

What are the actions that have not been taken by the JMB , management and guard here ?.

1. Putting a sign board at all of our facility "penceroboh akan dan boleh didakwa"
2. Guard should upon catching them should take records of theirs name and address , contact number and give them a verbal warning at 1st .
3. If caught trespassing again 2nd time , push them to polis ?. ( Let Them Handle it ).
4. All names, ic no and address should be keep in computer database in excel formats with all offences noted.
5. Picture should be taken and keep together with the excel formats database. ( For pro-filing matters )
6. If they damage our facility ,we should charge them like our falling down fences done by them .

7. Even though contractors that stacks a lot of  raw earth in sacks piling damaging the fences or piling their after works unused materials , we should fine them too , for causing us extra works , making our surrounding live spaces looks ugly unsafe and damage to our properties.

Here are some example :

Sharing visions values beliefs and dreams 

From People That care

Clamping Money Collected By Guard Company Now

Hai Everyone !.

I have just understand something really shocking , its regarding the prosedure implemented by the management company now to the guard company now , approved by the current jmb now and has been going on for all this time .

Clamping will be done by the guard company and they will issues out personal receipts to resident or owner of the veachiles that been clamp.Then on certern day the suppervisor of the guard company will come to serena bay and collect the resit books and cash to list out the list of clamping fees and submit to the management offices to issues another resit by management to guard as proofs of submitting claims of clamping fees from guard to management.

My questions is :

1. Why there is 2 resit books here ?.
2. Does JMB Or Management check and audit this list of claims with the actual resit books by the guard company ?.
3. Example senario : On 1 day guard collected RM100.00 worth of clamping fees , but claims RM50.00 only to management offices , who will know this ?.
4. Why is the receipts books used by guard company doesnt have running numbers ?.
5. Why does nobody check this running number with their claims list and know this been happening when ask ?.
6. Can the JMB and management solved and telly this before they change to new security company ?.
7. Or just take a new company and case closed ?.
8. Is there something going on here ?.
9. Is this got something to do with Mr soon that been fired by robert bench caught taking company money ?.

All thats matters now are we going to let this things happening again and again ?.

From people that care

Electing your Council Leader in your Home Community

The concept of a management body should be fairly clear to a Management Corporations' Council' members or even many long-time strata property owners. For non-involved owners and residents - especially first-time owners - this form of common-interest 'governance' can be perplexing and, at times, bewildering., what with the many parties (developers, managing agent, management council, other buyers) involved as well as with the legal duties of each party.
Those who have never lived in an owners' corporation (condo, apartments, townhouses, gated communities) often do not understand the necessity of service charges, sinking fund, rules and volunteering to sit in the management council. For them, the 'management' may be perceived as little more than a nebulous entity that expects prompt payment on monthly invoices. This lack of understanding can lead to miscommunication and misunderstanding with the general perception that condo living is 'hard'. Required by law
Call it by whatever name, Joint Management Body (JMB), Management Corporation (MC), Residents Association, they are all basically a community association of property owners looking out for their best interest. In the first two, it is a requirement by law for strata titled property under the Strata Titles Act, 1985 and the new Building and Common Property (Management and Maintenance) Act, 2007 ('BCP'), whereas Residents' Association are voluntary organizations registered as a society.
The new BCP Act now allows the formation of a joint management body from the start and owners do not have to wait till the first annual general meeting called by the developer to have a say in how their investment is managed and maintained.
Very often, only a small percentage of owners in condominiums or other types of strata titled development take interest in how their properties are managed. This leaves the handful of volunteers burned out after years of volunteering their services. There are also some who are interested but do not have the knowledge or skill to sit in the decision making council.
Challenging duties

In the BCP, the joint management committee representing the purchasers' should number at a minimum 5 purchasers, maximum 12. Whereas, in the Strata Titles Act, the Management Council should consist of, a minimum of 3 parcel owners, maximum 14.
Although these are voluntary positions, it has to be taken seriously because it involves people and their investments. Most owners' corporations are headed by a leader who might also be the chairman at meetings. Strong leadership is an essential component of every successful owners' corporation. Very often, those who speak the loudest at meetings are elected which may not be sufficient for the long term.
A good leader can make a difference for an owners' corporation spirit. By considering the strength and qualities it takes to succeed, selecting your leader can in a very real way, lead to a more productive and happy community. Here are some tips on how to choose the leader of your home community.
"A manager does things the right way and a leader does the right thing." A leader is someone who not only recognizes the "right thing," but who can also motivate others to help him get the right thing done. Strong leaders should have skills, knowledge, and experience plus the abilities to motivate and command.
How do you recognise who has this special combination of insight and inspiration? There are personal characteristics that point to strong leadership style. Look for people who display these particular abilities:

• Ability to take criticism - No one in a position of power will escape criticism. Leaders have the ability to discern when criticism is valid and when it is not.
• An open mind - A leader must be able to approach a problem creatively. Perspective is an invaluable leadership tool. A council/committee that is afraid of change will stagnate.
• Communicate well - Explains, persuades and praises. Some volunteers are not particularly articulate, yet are valuable and productive. Leaders should be able to express ideas clearly and persuasively.
• Decisiveness - Taking a stand involves making mistakes. A good leader takes a stand and if an error is made, acknowledges it and makes a course correction.
• Enthusiasm - Enthusiasm is contagious. With it, council members are motivated to keep volunteering. Without it, voluntary work becomes a burden.
• Leads by example and promotes teamwork - Arrives on time, never shirks responsibilities and demonstrates good work habits. Instills cooperation among volunteers, making it easy for them to pitch in together. Pitches in along side others and not just issue orders for others to follow-up.
• Listens to others - Source for and uses other's ideas and gives credit when credit's due.
• Problem solving skill - Uses knowledge and experience to help get the job done.
• Sensitivity - A genuinely caring leader inspires confidence in others. Confidence leads to results. Leaders delegate, give and seek constructive feedback. A leader knows how and when to give praise. Praise is the simplest and often the most valued form of reward. A leader knows how to criticize constructively: pointing out what is wrong without attacking personalities. A good leader seeks opinions and ideas from others.
• Sound judgment - Has the ability to identify and prioritize issues. A good leader then weighs alternatives carefully before making decisions.
• Takes responsibility - Never blames others for problems.
• Vision - A strong leader understands and promotes the community's best interests. Leaders set goals, communicate what's needed to achieve them and then move toward them.

Here are some tips to consider when electing the leaders of your owners' corporation:

• A leader should understand the functions of the owners' corporation and be familiar with significant historical events of the community. Newcomers frequently make good volunteers. However, there are some situations which call for someone possessing a historical perspective. For example, if the corporation is in the midst of a sensitive litigation or a new management contract, a newcomer might detract by insisting on covering old ground again.
• How much interest has the candidate shown in the community and its undertakings? Has there been regular meeting attendance and participation in activities? If not, investigate the sudden interest. Be particularly careful about "one-issue" candidates who volunteers because they dislike a certain contractor or are opposed to a recent service charges increase.
• A candidate should not have conflicting personal and professional commitments. For example, a high public profile candidate may have numerous commitments that mean infrequent participation.

If all the above sounds to you like a mini-government, it is in fact one. If you own a property with common property, you automatically become a member, like it or not. Over time, we have noticed that home owners can be categorized into three groups; those who make things happen, those who wait for things to happen and those who asked what happened. Which group do you belong to? Choose your leaders well and prosper or wait for the next election at the annual general meeting and run for council member post.

Qouted From : Posted by Huzaifah Magbool
Posted Date: Apr 21, 2007

Email Received Feedback From Residence From MR Steven Yong Of Serina Bay

Dear Mohd Amin,

As you know since the JMB were formed last year, till date none of their jobs done have bring good to unit member.None of our complaints were attended, phone call not attended at all by the present Committee members. Meeting dates, minutes and attendance of Committee are not stated in the notice board. Furthermore, the Management and Maintenance office staff are too busy even to entertain queries and requests and they even refuse to receivecomplaints letters.

Currently the services at the apartment are getting from bad to worse. No guards can be seen in the day and night time.They have been wasting money on the alarm system because they have been put on the wrong side. Its is also a waste of money to install the auto gate when they can just let anybody in. In such a big expenses project which cost almost RM40,000/= they did not even get the consent of the resident before installing while the residents whose roof top are

leaking during raining season are suffering.

The audited account still could not come out because there are discrepancies which may amount to about RM100,000=. Without the audited account, there could not be any AGM. Under the rules of the Management Act 663,an AGM must be held not more than 15 months after the last AGM. Its now more than 15 months and as such, their Committee is now considered null & void.

As such for the concern of the residents, we are proposing to form a new Committee to take over the current one. Looking forward to your co-operation for the benefits & betterment of our residents and Serina Bay.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Steven

Apakah yang dimaksudkan dengan "JMB"

Kebanyakan penduduk belum memahami apakah yang dimaksudkan dengan “JMB” yang perlu ditubuhkan. “JMB” ataupun dengan nama penuhnya “Joint Management Body” adalah sebuah badan yang ditubuhkan diperingkat pra sebelum penubuhan Management Corporation. Dengan adanya JMB sekurang-kurangnya ia dapat memberi pendedahan awal kepada Ahli Jawatankuasa untuk mengurus dan menyelenggara bangunan yang diduduki sebelum penubuhan Perbadanan Pengurusan.

Pasa asasnya, penyelenggaraan pangsapuri, rumah bertingkat akan dipertanggungjawab kepada pemilik berdaftar unit-unit di situ.

Akta Bangunan dan Harta Bersama (Penyenggaraan & Pengurusan Bangunan) 2007 (Akta 663) yang berkuatkuasa pada 12 April 2007 telah mewajibkan semua pemaju untuk menubuhkan Badan Pengurusan Bersama atau Joint Management Body (JMB) di semua bangunan bertingkat yang tertakluk di bawah Akta Hakmilik Strata. Setiap pemaju akan menubuhkan JMB di pangsapuri yang telah dibina oleh mereka sebelum ini bersama-sama dengan penduduk di bangunan terbabit. Dibawah ini saya sediakan sedikit maklumat yang dipetik dari artikel di dalam property magazine.

Apakah yang dimaksudkan dengan Badan Pengurusan Bersama atau Joint Management Body (JMB)?

Badan Pengurusan Bersama atau Joint Management Body (JMB) adalah satu jawatankuasa yang dianggotai dan ditadbir oleh Pemilik Petak/Penduduk dalam mengurus dan menyenggara bangunan. JMB diwajibkan di semua bangunan bertingkat yang tertakluk di bawah hakmilik strata.

Kenapa JMB perlu ditubuhkan?

Penubuhan JMB adalah perlu selaras dengan Akta 663 yang mewajibkan setiap Pemaju untuk menubuhkan JMB sehingga hakmilik strata dikeluarkan dan Perbadanan Pengurusan ditubuhkan.

Bilakah Penubuhan JMB dikuatkuasakan?

Bagi pangsapuri yang telah menerima kunci kediaman dan belum menerima hakmilik strata, pemaju hendaklah menubuhkan JMB dalam tempoh 12 bulan mulai dari 12 April 2007 atau dari tarikh mengambil kunci rumah kediaman.

Apakah Tanggungjawab dan kuasa JMB?

Tanggungjawab dan kuasa JMB adalah mematuhi notis PBT, menyenggara harta bersama, mendaftarkan JMB, menentukan dan mengenakan caj penyenggaraan, memastikan Kumpulan Wang Penyenggaraan Bangunan diaudit, mentadbir Kumpulan Wang Penyenggaraan Bangunan, menguatkuasa kaedah dalaman (House Rules), mengadakan Mesyuarat Agung Tahunan dan Luar Biasa, menginsuranskan bangunan, menyediakan dan menyenggara daftar pembeli, lain-lain perkara yang berkaitan penyenggaraan bangunan dan menyenggara Sinking Fund.

Siapakah Ahli-ahli JMB dan berapakah bilangan ahli-ahlinya?

Ahli-ahli JMB atau dikenali juga sebagai Jawatankuasa Pengurusan Bersama (JMB) terdiri daripada Pembeli dan Pemaju. Bilangan Pembeli mestilah tidak kurang dari 5 orang dan tidak lebih daripada 12 orang. Senarai ahli JMC adalah terdiri dari Pengerusi, Setiausaha, Bendahari, Ahli Jawatankuasa sementara 1 wakil dari Pemaju.

Berapa lama tempoh jawatan tersebut?

Ahli JMC memegang jawatan tidak melebihi 3 tahun atau sehingga pembubaran JMB.

Bagaimana Ahli JMC dipilih?

Perlantikan ahli JMC diadakan pada Mesyuarat Pertama secara undian tangan. Urusan mengadakan mesyuarat tersebut akan dikendalikan oleh Pemaju dengan memberi notis bertulis 14 hari kepada Pemilik Petak/Penduduk dari tarikh mesyuarat yang dijangka akan diadakan.

Siapakah yang layak mengundi?

Pemilik Petak/Penduduk yang tidak mempunyai tunggakan sahaja layak untuk mengundi.

Bagaimana pula dengan penduduk yang mempunyai tunggakan?

Penduduk yang mempunyai tunggakan boleh hadir ke mesyuarat tersebut tetapi mereka tidak boleh mengundi.

Bagaimana jika Pemilik Petak/Penduduk tidak hadir ke mesyuarat tersebut walaupun layak untuk mengundi?

Pemilik Petak/Penduduk tersebut boleh mewakilkan kepada orang lain dengan mengisi Borang Proxy dan menghantar borang tersebut kepada Pemaju dalam tempoh 7 hari sebelum tarikh mesyuarat diadakan.

Bagaimana jika ada persamaan undi bagi sesuatu resolusi/perkara?

Pengerusi yang baru dipilih pada mesyuarat tersebut akan membuat keputusan bagi persamaan undi tersebut.

Apakah kuorum bagi mengadakan Mesyuarat Agung JMB?

Kuorum bagi mengadakan mesyuarat Agung JMB ialah ¼ daripada pembeli yang berhak mengundi.

Bagaimana jika kuorum masih tidak mencukupi?

Jika dalam masa ½ jam, kuorum masih tidak mencukupi, Pemilik Petak/Penduduk yang hadir berhak untuk membentuk suatu kuorum.

Bagaimana jika tiada pemilik petak/penduduk yang hadir atau tiada yang ingin menganggotai JMC?

Selepas 1 jam sekiranya tiada yang hadir atau tiada yang ingin menganggotai JMC, maka pemaju akan memaklumkan kepada Pesuruhjaya Bangunan secara bertulis dalam tempoh 7 hari dari tarikh mesyuarat telah diadakan. Pesuruhjaya Bangunan akan memaklumkan sama ada untuk menetapkan semula tarikh mesyuarat yang baru atau melantik ejen pengurusan bagi mentadbir dan menyenggara bangunan tersebut.